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Monitor Lizard
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Posted - 25 Feb 2010 :  17:13:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For competitors, particularly those in Road-going classes, who may skip the front page/Championship news, please read the announcement regarding Tyres.
Kathryn

quattro
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Posted - 25 Feb 2010 :  18:30:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems a bit like the European Union telling the Government what to do. No matter, at least it creates, or should create, a level playing field across the UK.

Now got to figure out how to cart me tyres to the event now I have fitted a passenger seat!

you've got four so make 'em work
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Monitor Lizard
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233 Posts

Posted - 25 Feb 2010 :  18:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess whichever way you look at it, the very clear message which now creates this level playing field across the board represents a positive move.

Bearing that in mind, we will be defaulting the HSA records to zero at all events across the Classes which will now be allowed to run 1B tyres, but which previously only allowed 1A.
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Woodman
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Posted - 25 Feb 2010 :  19:40:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does this also mean that ACB10 crossplies will be allowed in roadgoing classes?
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Monitor Lizard
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233 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2010 :  14:53:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It means that tyres permitted will be exactly as per the Blue Book, so the answer to that can only be a straightforward yes.
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Grasmere
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Posted - 26 Feb 2010 :  17:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just seeking clarification,with regards to RECORDS do I take it that a new record will have to be set in EVERY class within the H.S.A.Championship?

Thank you
John
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swilkinson
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Posted - 26 Feb 2010 :  18:09:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Grasmere

Just seeking clarification,with regards to RECORDS do I take it that a new record will have to be set in EVERY class within the H.S.A.Championship?

Thank you
John



I wouldn't have thought so.

"Andy Priaulx, driving with great circumcision" John Moody
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Monitor Lizard
HSA Comp Sec

233 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2010 :  18:53:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

At the moment I can confirm that the HSA records for all the Classes which now permit the use of 1B tyres WILL default to zero across all venues. (A1, A2, A2.1, A3, B1, B2, U and V).

The Committe is in discussion regarding the other records and whether or not an advantage is now created to those classes mentioned above. As always, it welcomes constructive feedback from all competitors.

Many thanks.
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Grasmere
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Posted - 26 Feb 2010 :  21:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am I correct in thinking the road classes you have listed will only then be able to score a maximum of NINE points at any given round and not TEN points which the other classes WOULD be able to score.This would then be a disadvantage to the road classes? If this is so, would it be possible for every class to start with a clean sheet? If I have misread or misunderstood any of your points I apologize in advance.
Thank you

John

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fcrosse
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Posted - 26 Feb 2010 :  22:07:40  Show Profile  Visit fcrosse's Homepage  Reply with Quote
John
You have overlooked the fact that the 'new' classes will have 7 opportunities to score 10 points due to venues being visited more than once in 2010. Following your logic, if 2 new classs were introduced in 2011 would you also want all class records deleted in order to be fair to those 2 new classes?

Fyrth
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Monitor Lizard
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233 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2010 :  14:46:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John

Thank you for your thoughts and input regarding the records issue.

You are right in thinking that, at the first event attended, competitors would only be in a position to score a maximum of 9 points. However, upon return to that venue later in the season, a possible 10 could be scored.

I know for certain other competitors share your thoughts on this matter; for example it could be interpreted as dis-advantaging those Classes.

Your observation that defaulting all Class records to zero across the Championship offers a level playing field is also shared.

Thanks again, your very valid and constructive points are welcomed and have been added to the Committee's discussions.

Kathryn

Edited by - Monitor Lizard on 27 Feb 2010 14:51:01
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Grasmere
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26 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2010 :  17:40:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kathryn
Just read your post re. records. Thank you for the most helpful comments. Was beginning to think there was only me who had seen the pitfalls.
I've said all along it should be women running the show - they have much more logic !!!!
JOHN
(ps: If you still want the goods - don't forget the artwork)
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Monitor Lizard
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233 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2010 :  17:51:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John, thanks and will be in touch next week. Sadly this MSA statement caught me right off guard this week and taken up a lot of time! Cheers and thanks.
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DaneGross
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Posted - 01 Mar 2010 :  13:32:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am pleased that 1B will be allowed for my class, A1.

However, I will be sticking with my 1A tyres until a) they wear out or b) I am convinced lack of 1B tyres is the reason why I am not F1 World Chumpion

How do the MSA stand with all those other things the Northern speed added? Such as restrictions on suspension and brakes.

The Northern speed gang said they would be enforced onto all other championship and event regulations at the start of the 2010 season and yet I have seen no MSA letter stating this.

Can I assume they haven't managed to enforce their suspension and braking regs onto every in roadgoing modified ?

Is there any news on this.



Faster than a speeding speedy thing
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Monitor Lizard
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233 Posts

Posted - 01 Mar 2010 :  14:31:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Dane
I was just wondering whether or not you had sent me your championship registration form and cheque, because it hasn't arrived, so I'm a bit concerned maybe it has gone somewhere else or gone astray in the snail mail system?
Kathryn
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swilkinson
Active Member

393 Posts

Posted - 01 Mar 2010 :  14:32:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by DaneGrossThe Northern speed gang said they would be enforced onto all other championship and event regulations at the start of the 2010 season and yet I have seen no MSA letter stating this.

Can I assume they haven't managed to enforce their suspension and braking regs onto every in roadgoing modified ?

Is there any news on this.


Just so that you are aware of the real situation; the "suspension and braking regs" you mention are in the "Northern speed gang event regulations" because the MSA told the "Northern speed gang" that they (the MSA) would be enforcing these regulations.

So please do not repeat this sort of comment elsewhere; thank you.

"Andy Priaulx, driving with great circumcision" John Moody

Edited by - swilkinson on 01 Mar 2010 16:02:10
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